Climate is so much in the news these days that we might forget that ten years ago, it wasn’t even a beat covered by many publications. That’s why we invited Justin Worland, a Senior Correspondent at TIME, to the latest episode of the Siemens Energy Podcast. Of the eight years that Justin has been at TIME, seven of them have been on the climate beat. He chats with people as varied as oil and gas executives and Extinction Rebellion, giving him a chance to observe the intersection of policy, the private sector, and society.